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How to seduce a Japanese man?

How a German woman tries to seduce her boss?

Summary:  A German woman thought that she was badly and madly in love with her married Japanese boss.  I helped her as she tried to do it.  Slightly edited (for clarity) exchange of emails is below for anyone who either wants to understand Japanese men or learn more about seducing your boss or just to get smarter about relationships.
Anna writes, “I am in love with my boss. I am his secretary. He is a Japanese diplomat living and working in Europe for the Japanese Government. I am 23 and he is 47.

I don't know how to approach him, as I am scared of losing my job! I can't tell if he likes me or not as even though he once told me I was like a flower. However, sometimes Japanese people give compliments merely to flatter and without meaning them. I know I am (not to be too vain) quite young and pretty for him but I can't tell what he is thinking. As he is Japanese he has quite Japanese manners, that is, he often avoids direct eye contact with women in general and also hides his sentiments from his face. However, I have seen him looking at my body when he thinks I am not looking.

I am also not sure what my reputation is in the office as some women are quite jealous of me and may or may not speak spitefully behind my back, especially true for Japanese women as I am quite large-breasted, tall and blonde and for them this might be a little scandalous or frightening or so I have heard! I have also heard that the Japanese consider Europeans inferior to them.

I am replacing my Japanese boss' usual secretary until August as she is away on maternity leave There were many jobs available at the time I applied and I was interviewed by my boss and other bosses as well who work in different departments. I could have been chosen to be the secretary of any number of diplomats but due to hierarchical ranking, my boss got to choose first and he chose me. The other day a new girl came to replace a secretary on the sixth floor, I am on the 4th and apparently she had applied for my job but not got it. My boss actually came up to me and told me that he had chosen me over her and another girl who works on the seventh floor, which was quite flattering. However, he did all this in a very serious manner, as if it were work oriented. This is the problem – he is always dead serious in most situations.

I think I have a mixed reputation at my office. Many Japanese women may speak harmfully of me but I know I am admired by the men, as I say, not to be vain, but for them I am a potentially good looking woman, as I am about the tallest woman in the building (and actually taller than my boss who I fancy), I have the largest breasts even though these silicone (however, they originally still were bigger than any Japanese woman's as I have noticed that they are all flat chested - I have gone from a 85 C to 90 D with the help of surgery). I have nice firm buttocks (as you know many Japanese women have bodies like prepubescent girls, with no breasts nor butt) and I am blonde which might make me a bit of a danger in their eyes.

I discussed the situation with my photographer who used to take pictures of me for publicity work and he seems to think that my boss would be mad to turn down advances from a young, curvaceous blonde like me, but then of course, he agreed that within the work place, especially the diplomatic scene that one must step carefully. He told me to send some hot photos I have of myself in bikini to my boss but this sounds to me like a mad plan and as you say I need to go step by step and avoid any potentially harmful situation.

Sometimes I think my boss thinks I am damn hot but sometimes I feel like he thinks that as a European I am inferior. He seems to avoid my glances and looks a little disdainful but then again maybe I misinterpret him. It’s so hard understanding Japanese expressions. Also I sometimes think he might fantasize about me but just to sleep with me once and no more I want more than that. Maybe as I am so young compared to him that I am forbidden territory or perhaps too young for him.

My boss’ wife, I found out, lives in Japan alone with her teenage daughter. I inquired to a friend who is also a colleague whether this might be because my boss is gay or because he has a mistress here but apparently neither of the two is true. So I wonder what my boss does to satisfy himself.

Please advise me how to seduce this man without being in a compromising situation work wise.

*****

It is not right to assume that Japanese men think of Europeans as inferior. While Japanese in general believe that they are superior to the whole world but at the same time they also think that other races are better than them in so many ways. In fact they often admire the fact that Europeans are so good looking or they don't work so hard with all the vacations that they get or that Europe is at least as culturally rich as Japan is. So let us work with the hypothesis that he does not think of you as inferior.

Japan is not a great country for its own people when it comes to speaking Japanese. That is why kids who grow up overseas and do not know Japanese very well do not do well in the Japanese system. So it is almost universally true that they leave their families back in Japan when they work overseas. It simply does not mean that they are gay. Or that they bring a mistress with them from Japan. Though I would not be surprised if he has a mistress in Germany now. But insofar as you are concerned, it is much better that is wife is not with him.

It is common for Japanese men to praise their female colleagues, particularly if they are good looking (that way subordinates keep working harder in hope of a reward). Sometimes it does not mean anything: it is just a way to make them feel better so that they will work harder. Sometimes it is an indirect way to say that they like you.

Japanese are probably among the most inscrutable people in the world and even the Japanese have a hard time determining the feelings of other Japanese. So let us be careful here.

The Japanese take work very seriously and for them the distinction of work and private life is not very clear. So it is not difficult to understand why everything around him is work related. The Japanese are also not very comfortable cracking jokes particularly in a foreign language. In general most Japanese are very uncomfortable and shy in the presence of foreigners, particularly women. And from the way you describe to me, you have a great personality and that may intimidate him somewhat. But we will work on that together and transform you into a timid girl who is ready for seduction by a Japanese man.

Don't worry what your reputation is. The Japanese folks around you might talk whatever they want behind your back so it is best to ignore it.

The Japanese are very discreet people so whatever you do has to be done with total secrecy. And that is why sending your photos was a bad idea from your photographer. Remember that he is not only your boss; he is also a public figure in both Germany and Japan. If anything leaks to the media, it will be just terrible. So all your interaction with you has to be such that you come across to him as a person who can be trusted all the time with any secrets. Do not forget that he is a diplomat and the public face of the country in Germany.

I am not clear what you want from him. I understood that you just want a casual relationship with him and not a marriage. I think chances for you to seduce him, maybe even take a secret trip with him are high but to expect that he will leave his wife for you is highly unlikely.

Please describe to me about the layout of your office, where is his office, where is yours, how many people are around both of you, how much privacy does he have in his office, do you often go to his room alone, is the door closed when you are inside, do other people can look inside his office. Also how do you typically dress at work, what do you wear, what do other girls wear, can you wear anything you want, what kinds of clothes do you have.

My game plan on a very high level right now is that through a series of steps that we develop jointly let us first test him (is he a good candidate for seduction?), secondly find out how/where to seduce him, and finally what to do to seduce him. It could take a few weeks but if we do it slowly, strategically (with all possible scenarios planned out), carefully (so that you can still keep your job and not create a scandal), and discreetly, you might actually succeed.

*****

One enters the floor from two lifts that are on the far left side of my office. I share my office with two other colleagues. We are three in total working for eight diplomats also on the same floor as us. My three colleagues are on the left side of me. The girl next to me has a direct view of the lift; I don't.

As you can imagine, I don't see my boss much unless I go to his office or he comes to see me. I can catch glimpses of him and check out his movements via the small hole between the glass pane and the corridor on the other side as when he exits from the lift or goes to the toilet he usually uses the discreet way, which is via the back corridor, as do most of the diplomats. I only see a glimpse of anyone's back as they go to the toilet and can only recognize by the color of the shirt. Also, Japanese men are so illusive, especially my boss, sometimes you don't even notice them come nor go. Luckily I get to go to his office at least once (sometimes twice, even three times if its a good day!) to deliver post that arrives for him. Sometimes he might come to my desk to ask me something or he'll phone me and request information, which means that once I have the information, appointment or whatever sorted, I can go and see him.

When I go to see him I always knock first. His door is never open nor closed (unless he's away) but generally nearly shut but a crack open but usually he is always alone in his office. Other people can only look in his office if they come to the very end of the corridor where his office is. It’s the last one.

The dress code seems to be different for Japanese than for Europeans. All the male Japanese diplomats wear suits and ties, all the female Japanese staff mostly wear suits, skirts, shirts and smart clothes apart from a couple of younger ones who wear more fashionable clothes. The western staff seem to wear whatever they want, ranging from jeans and T-shirts to smarter clothes. I generally dress smartly but my boss made a comment that I was very fashionable, (which could be bad, I don’t know! I can't help this as can not afford a new wardrobe and I am 23 so I have quite trendy clothes I suppose- also my British colleague wears very low cut blouses but since she is very small busted, she can get away with it more than I can without looking whorish - as I am D cup size) and plus what with my curves the same shirt that will look very 'normal' on a Japanese woman might look different on me due to my bust size! Plus I like to sometimes wear slightly revealing clothes, as a low neckline on me can be quite flattering. I generally wear tight trousers (smart ones) with shirts or other smart tops. I also have some very sexy tops but I try not to use these too often and wear plenty of shirts so as to avoid getting a whorish reputation or something! This is the problem with big bust, you can't hide it and if you wear tight stuff you can get very negative feedback usually from jealous women (as I did in my last job) but some men could also see it as bad, I guess.

I don't know whether he likes timid women even though he might be used to them; I suspect he may secretly admire strong women. Also, he has lived In the US and other countries apart from Japan, so should have had some sort of experience apart from shy women. Also I think he may perhaps have a penchant for vivacity and personality - could be.

My reasons for thinking the above are that my other colleague, (on my right), was also chosen by my boss and she works for him occasionally for press stuff but mostly works for two other diplomats. Anyway, he also chose this girl. She is also tall, blonde (but not busty - like I said above!) and quite vivacious and with a strong personality. I think he has a dichotomy of fear and desire for such characters... maybe.... but he seems less scared of her than me, but she been there longer but still he seems more comfortable with distance when it concerns me. However, when he does go past our desks he likes to look at my colleague and sometimes myself also but he tends to look at me more, I seem to think. This is why he's so hard to understand, maybe he just wants to look and not touch, maybe he prefers the fantasy to the reality, I sometimes think.

I heard from a Japanese colleague that comments (she only told me positive things, typical of Japanese people) had been made about myself and the colleague on the right, as the two blonde beauties supposedly and apparently my bust was also the source of some envy for Japanese women! And God knows what the Japanese men think. I suppose I am dangerous, as I am really quite tall. Most Japanese people’s heads are at the same level as my bust! I never thought so much in my life about my big bust in other offices where I worked before (out of the normal anyway as other women also were curvaceous) but here in this Japanese office it seems to be a source of envy, fear, desire, and danger!

At first, when I first starting working there I did not know what his position was as I just knew he was a diplomat, but now it’s clear that Mr. Toyota is really quite important, and the most important man on the floor anyway, so I have to be careful and so does he.

According to a colleague Mr. Toyota calls his wife in Japan every day so I guess he is very fond of her, which is normal, but I wonder what he does here in Germany for sex because as a man, of course, he must do it! He may have a mistress but if he does nobody at work has told me or he may be alone. But anyway I don’t intend to break his marriage just be with him until I have to leave in October to go and work in France. My contract with the diplomats ends in beginning of August. So I've got to get moving on this. 

*****

I think one change that you have to make in your personality in his presence right away is to make him feel more comfortable with you. We do not want him to be scared or be intimidated by you. It is hard to like someone when you are scared. So you will need to smile more often, be gentle with him, and not make him feel 'small' when you are around him. Sometimes it is as simple as just standing a little far from him so that he can look into your eyes without having to raise his head.

If you are right about him, then he is definitely interested in you. What we need to do now is to validate this hypothesis through a few tests.

You know at that age a lot of men in Japan never have sex. In fact most Japanese couples hardly have any sex after a few years of marriage and particularly after kids are born. It is amazing how Japanese couples can lead totally sexless lives. Having said that, I should mention that Japanese love anything 'fresh'. So I would like to say that he definitely desires you but might be reluctant to do anything other than looking at you for obvious reasons: he does not feel so comfortable with foreign women, he could create a lot of problem for himself if you did not act the right way, you are his colleague, you are too young and that can be a problem in the West, etc.

From now on, I will like you to be nicer to him and start flirting with him a little bit. You must also start visiting him in his office more often and now that you are secretary you are allowed to do so. For example, if you are going out for lunch or will be away from your desk for a while, it is best to walk to his office, and tell him that you will be gone and if he needed anything urgently. And when you come back, just stop by his office to tell him that you are back and if he needs anything. You must also start to comment on his outfit. And simply stop calling him or sending emails. Always go to his office. If it is an email that you need to forward to him, print it and bring it to him and then ask him if we wants the electronic copy of the email.

In terms of outfit, I think you consider switching to skirts. Japanese men do not like women in pants. Japanese men also have a fetish for underwear particularly panties. So let us keep this in mind as we work on the next step.

Do you have a jacket that you can zip? What I want to know is if you can wear a bra top and then put a jacket so that when everyone else is around you can simply look decent with your jacket all zipped up (or buttoned up). But then unzip it when you are with him.

*****

I shall definitely take this advice although he won't be here for the rest of the week. I also get worried about disturbing him too often as he has much work and is a very busy man.

Today he was asking me how I liked my job and I told him that if my contract could extend beyond August this would be great as I loved my job and I told him that I thought he was a wonderful boss!

Earlier on in the afternoon (prior to the above) he was making strange comments about how European people have higher body temperatures than Japanese (don't know quite what he meant) maybe he was a touch drunk after lunch, maybe not.

As for wearing skirts, yes, I have some but these are mostly long skirts as my legs are not my best feature and so I would rather emphasize my better parts! Also worried about looking sluttish! Could this turn him off, as he is an older man!!!

I wore a pair of tight black trousers, with a black shirt buttoned only at the bottom, to reveal a low cut red top. One of the younger diplomats was taking a good look but my boss never looks at my bust in front of me.  I once caught him sneaking a glance at it when he thought I was not looking (but actually I saw him, though he does know this, and he seemed to catch his breath!)
But anyway today he seemed more comfortable and we even cracked some jokes together. I wonder whether I am fantasy to him but one, which due to his upbringing, Japanese culture etc., this makes me a fantasy that he could not, due to mental blockages, realize. I also secretly start to have other concerns about his manhood items due to what European women tell me about Japanese men.

I teased him today as he was saying that an inferior diplomat was actually smarter than the inferior diplomat's boss, so I said, “that’s not a very Japanese thing of you to say. What if I tell him you said that?” He was worried for a moment then he laughed, but still don't know what he thought of that.... perhaps he was surprised but sometimes I can't help saying things that I should perhaps reconsider as I am very spontaneous in my verbal manner but then again European men have admired me for exactly that: the fact that I am quite direct.

The kinds of clothes I have are tight-fitting trousers: dark red, various black (in silk, etc different materials), bright red, blue, grey, all of them are low waist cut and mostly boot leg cut, and of cours,e flattering for the buttocks! I have shirts of various different colors which I combine with these trousers, sometimes, like today, I put a top underneath the shirt that way I can either button it up and be discreet or undo all the buttons for seduction. I also have some nice woolen jumpers, but smart and all tight fitting in general and some nicely cut t-shirts in blacks, white, brown etc. Then I have a couple of short skirts but these are all quite fancy and not simple enough for office wear, as they are more for nightclubs.

Yes I definitely need tips in how to stand, walk, and approach him. This is very important and I feel so clueless about this. Also how to show my body in a way which is not whorish as today I have to say I felt a bit whorish in my low cut top.  When I put on a low cut item my breasts are very obvious to say the least. But still I should occasionally use what I've got, I feel.

It’s so good to talk to you, I don't want to tell any of my colleagues as this could be too dangerous and none of my European friends are able to advise me about Japanese men and normally I don't have a problem chatting up European men and usually get what I want but with my boss I really can't tell if he likes me or not or whether its all in my imagination.

What can I say but that love is making me lose my usual composure? Today I wore a skirt on your advice, and in fact it is the first time I wore one to the office. I walked into my beloved Mr. Toyota's office this morning, as per usual, to deliver the mail to him, and as I walked in he was walking out which surprised both of us. Maybe he was surprised also to see me in a skirt but anyway we were both nervous and I almost threw the mail into his arms and he almost dropped it and all in all quite an awkward situation. I should have been a lot more cool and collected but I was reacting to his lack of composure as well. Anyway I hope to find an excuse to see him one last time, even if it is to wish him a good vacation before he leaves. He will not be there from this afternoon onwards and I feel like I am falling for him big time - I feel a tad sad. I got a call from an ex of mine, who is a good looking, fine, young man but all other men seem inconsequential and though it’s been a long time since I have been with anybody, and of course, have animal desires, I want to save myself for my boss. I don't even want to look at another man.

I have his mobile number but he does not have mine but then again its not at all common for European staff to give their bosses their numbers plus outside of work our bosses should only be disturbed for urgent matters, so this means unless something very serious happens I will not be calling him.
I am a bit worried as I was chatting to one of the chauffeurs (who drives the diplos to meetings etc.) and I was telling him how I wanted to stay on later than when my contract ended and that I had asked my boss. He asked me who my boss was so I said Mr. Toyota and he said well he likes the ladies and you are well made so things should be on your side. Obviously I was quite flattered as regards the chauffeur's remarks as to me but a bit worried that Mr. Toyota is a ladies' man. I felt like asking the chauffeur more and why he said that but I felt that it was not an appropriate moment especially as he was with another chauffeur. I'd like to ask him next time I see him why he said that but then again I am scared of rousing suspicion. I don't want to be with Mr. Toyota if he is a flirt or a Casanova. I am quite worried about this. One of things that attracted me to him in the first place was my assumption that he was a bit shy and discreet and not a gigolo type. I got very badly hurt in my last relationship. I was very much in love and living with my ex for three years but he was a Casanova and cheated on me amongst other things, plus one day I saw one of the women he had betrayed me with and I could not believe it as she was fat and ugly and neither could any of my friends fathom why? How this could happen to me? Why did he jeopardize our relationship for 12 hours with a fat lumpy lady? But he did and this was one of the reasons it ended between us - the principal reason in fact. I don't want any more Casanovas or playboys. I want a man who is obsessed with me - egoistical as this sounds.

I understand my ex was one gigolo type as he was very good looking and could have any woman he wanted but my boss is not I would say conventionally attractive in that sense and does not have muscles popping out of his T-shirt but has a lot of charm and grace and is a very elegant, distinguished type of man, plus he has power and I assume money (which attracts many women) so a bit worrying. I guess also I have been out with one older man and a part of it that I liked was that because I was younger, he felt like he had to be very nice to me and he was scared that I was easy type, although he was wrong I am very faithful. Maybe this strange power dynamic is part of the appeal. It’s true he likes to look at my blonde colleague too, in my (perhaps vain) opinion I am better looking than her, at least conventionally (she has thin lips and small breasts but this could be appealing to Japanese) but who knows. Anyway I feel jealous when he looks at her though he always looks at me as well. I am starting to feel quite confused about all this!

Is it true that Japanese men's equipment is very small compared to Western men? This is another issue of worry for me.

*****

  • Don't be nervous or stressed out. You want to come across as a confident person. A confident person produces more lust in a man. And remember that you can be sweet and cute but still be confident.
  • If he rejects your advances and does not respond, don't take it personally. Remember that he is married man much older than you and even if he wants you, he might not want to do anything for moral reasons. It does not mean that he does not think you are a wonderful girl.
  • Go slowly. That way, if something goes wrong we can either change the plan or stop it altogether. In the beginning, in particularly, do one thing at a time and see what happens.
  • I also did not answer another question that you had the other day. From what I know, Japanese men prefer discreet encounters so it is unlikely that he would want to do anything either at his house or yours. They prefer weekend trips to hotels in the countryside. So be prepared for that.
  • Finally do not forget to smile.

*****

So to recap, I need to walk shyly at first into his office but then with more confidence thrusting my bust forward (!) and looking in his eyes smiling, smiling, smiling.

When he talks I must listen open-mouthed and play with my pen in my mouth.
I should wear sexy clothes and do plenty of bending at an angle so he can catch glimpses of my ample cleavage. Also I should use color contrast bras; is that it? Well, anyway I am already organizing some nice outfits for next week's encounter.

What about using my intelligence and personality to impress him as I am not just a body but also do not know what a Japanese man wants, and if he wants a submissive woman well, he should look elsewhere because I could nor would want to be.

I can't help but be scared as perhaps we are very different and, therefore, cannot ever be more than very fleeting lovers, if that, perhaps I will decide I don't like him or vice versa but still.

I'm just scared because I don't think he'd ever dare make a move on me, as he is very discreet. Also, maybe you are right, maybe morally he would also be blocked. One of my colleagues commented that for them also we are very 'exotic,' and I figure, also forbidden territory although fantasies permitted but that is the land of dreams and not a reality.

*****

Just thought I would give you the happy ending to my tale, so that you have the finale to the story!

I think my crush on my boss was linked to the fact that I was down and out after breaking up with my boyfriend of three years. He had gone to live in another country, however, he returned this week back and came straight to my flat to tell me he still wanted to be with me and when I saw him I realized that I still love him so much and that what we have is so special!

My feelings for my boss could never be anywhere so profound or deep or meaningful and I realize that I have a strong future with this guy (who is also close to my age, European and many things in common) so we are back together as a young, good-looking, prosperous couple and we are now living together and I am so elated and overjoyed and happy! And so are both our families also.

I think that yes I liked my boss as he is clever and wise but I realize that with him it was more a fantasy and distraction but something with no concrete grounding. With my man we have something special, we are similar and we can foresee a future with each other in the long term and our dreams can actually come true.

 
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